Coming to faith: The longing of Messiah

The following is a response to Yash’s post “Who is Messiah ben Josef?” from his blog “Real Messianic Jews: don’t believe it.”

Yash is an anti-Yeshua Jew. He not only rejects Jesus/Yeshua as the Messiah, but is very much involved in trying to get Jewish believers in Yeshua to come back to Judaism. He’s also trying to stop Jews like bogRaphy going to the bogs. Jewish believers in Yeshua should not shy away from good apologists  of Judaism, of which Yash is a good example.

“Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good? But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened. But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:12-15).

Here is my response to Yash’s “Who is Messiah ben Josef?” (Although, I didn’t address the topic, I thought that it was a timely “response”).

When I accepted Ye(ho)shua as the Messiah, it was based – from my standpoint – on my belief that Jesus was who He said He was. The belief of course was not blind; I did do my homework. But that is the surface view. Why does one believe anything, why does one do anything, why is one born into this or that culture/religion, and so forth? I find the answer in Isaiah:

“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure/delight/longing” (Isaiah 46:10).

מַגִּיד מֵֽרֵאשִׁית אַחֲרִית וּמִקֶּדֶם אֲשֶׁר לֹא־נַעֲשׂוּ אֹמֵר עֲצָתִי תָקוּם וְכָל־חֶפְצִי אֶעֱשֶׂ׃  

I am the person I erm? because God did the same to me. And yet, we are not robots.  The relationship between God’s sovereigny and our response and responsibility is one of the many mysteries hidden within the inscrutable decrees of God’s Holy Council. We can argue backwards and forwards on what the Tanakh (Jewish Bible) says. I have – in the final unanalysable “analysis” – accepted under the influence of God’s sovereign council (Isaiah 46:10) that Jesus is who he says He is. This does not mean that all is bright and breezy, and I’ve arrived. God continues to renew my mind.

5 thoughts on “Coming to faith: The longing of Messiah

  1. Shalom Bography,

    I have spoken to my friend Yash many times too, I just believe he has been listening to the wrong people and has not given HaShem’s Son Yeshua a fair chance!! I pray HaShem brings him to the Light of His truth.

    • Rey, I wonder how accurate it is too say that someone has given or not given Yeshua a chance. My post argues that everything happens because God has ordained it. This, of course, raises that prickly issue of “free will.” One thing is clear from scripture, though: if God appoints, it happens: “and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed (Acts 13:48).

      Now when Yash reads this, he’ll probably chuckle. It doesn’t make sense; it’s not fair. When we think like that we don’t have a high enough view of Hashem – Father, Son and Ruach Hakodesh. I quote from
      http://voiceofthesheep.wordpress.com/2007/02/28/gods-sovereignty-appointed-to-eternal-life/

      [Arthur] Pink says of this truth, “Every artifice of human ingenuity has been employed to blunt the sharp edge of this scripture and to explain away the obvious meaning of these words, but it has been employed in vain, though nothing will ever be able to reconcile this and similar passages to the mind of the natural man.” – p.52.

      He says we can learn four things from this statement:
      1. Believing is the consequence and not the cause of God’s decree.
      2. Only a limited number are ordained to eternal life (“as many as”).
      3. This appointment is not to mere external privileges, but to salvation itself.
      4. That all, and not one less, who are thus ordained will most certainly believe.

      End of quote,

      All that the Father gives Him, will come to Yeshua:

      Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

      At this the Jews began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

      “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

      (John 6:35-44)

      • Shalom! I too pray that Yash will end up seeing the TRUTH about Yeshua. I must admit that I have a lot of sympathy with the “Anti-Missionary” guys, because of the damage that has been done by many within the Christian Faith … In fact they are doing as much damage now than what the Roman Church did in the dark and middle ages … their methods are changed, but the results are as devastating!
        No Jew should give up what He (or she) has to follow a crowd that rejects the Torah and brings in confusing “theology” and “doctrines” that have NO BIBLICAL FOUNDATION.
        A Jew who sincerely seeks the TRUTH about the GREATEST, MOST TORAH OBSERVANT JEW WHO EVER LIVED will come to KNOW THE TRUTH! If they have a self-centered and self-driven agenda like “Rabbi” Singer they delude themselves! By all means attack the “Missionary” people, but DON’T BLAME YESHUA FOR THEIR LIES!
        May I throw in an example of what I mean? That pathetic, money grabbing, “Evangelist” Benny Hin is now selling “PROSPERITY PRAYER SHAWLS”!!!! Now people like that should be permanently banned from ever going near Israel again!
        Just my twopence worth!
        Shalom!
        Barry

  2. Strong stuff, Barry, and very apt. I was, for a few years, very involved in the Word of Faith movement of which Benny Hinn, the Copelands, and Oral Roberts are promiment representatives. The following by Justin Peters is the best and SUCCINT critique; it’s a must:
    A Call for Discernment – A Biblical Critique of the Word of Faith (or the Health, Wealth & Prosperity) Movement
    http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=71208151703

  3. Bography – you speak very differently about me on your blog than you do when speaking to me personally.

    You say about me “Yash is an anti-Yeshua Jew. He not only rejects Jesus/Yeshua as the Messiah, but is very much involved in trying to get Jewish believers in Yeshua to come back to Judaism. He’s also trying to stop Jews like bogRaphy going to the bogs. Jewish believers in Yeshua should not shy away from good apologists of Judaism, of which Yash is a good example.”

    Note: I am not “anti-Yeshua”. I state very clearly on my website that I am not an “anti-missionary” and I can say it from now until forever, I am not anti Jesus. You claim I am very involved in trying to get Jewish believers back to Judaism. By ‘very involved’ you just mean that I write a blog, right? No need to over-dramatize. Also, I never considered myself to be an ‘apologist of Judaism’ (but thanks for the compliment, I guess?) – I am just a truth seeker and so far have been very convinced by the truth of the Jewish Bible, and very unconvinced by that of the Christian Bible. I am yet to find convincing evidence otherwise except for a lot of ranting of ‘I believe I believe! You’re going to hell if you don’t!!’

    Now Rey – you claim this about me “I just believe he has been listening to the wrong people and has not given HaShem’s Son Yeshua a fair chance!!” You think I have not given Jesus a fair chance? I have spoken/read/emailed many people and as I said above – I have yet to be convinced. You might notice, however, that in our email correspondence, I ONLY ever quote the Jewish Bible. You VERY FREQUENTLY quote to me Rabbinic writings. The people that I listen to are G-d, Moses, the Prophets and the other authors of the Jewish Bible. Are these the wrong people to listen to?

    And finally, Barry: “I too pray that Yash will end up seeing the TRUTH about Yeshua.” Your prayers have been answered – because I have already seen the TRUTH about him. Now it’s your turn to have an objective look at what you believe (You can start by reading my blog: http://messianicjews.wordpress.com/) You also call me an “Anti-Missionary”. I am not one, I never claimed to be one, and I have nothing to do with anyone who does claim to be one. Please don’t brand me without ever having met me. You are welcome to email me, however, if you do want to seek the truth together: yash613@live.com

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