The General and Effectual Call in Christian Salvation

There is the general call (everyone is called to repent) and there is the effectual call (only some repent)

GENERAL CALL

Matthew 22:14 – many are called, but few are chosen.

EFFECTUAL CALL

Romans 10:13-14 – 13 All those who shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

In Romans 10:13, no one is able (for they are dead/in darkness) to EFFECTUALLY call upon the Lord without the Lord’s saving grace (there’s no other grace that is involved in salvation). So, if one is “called” – in the effectual sense, then one will (without fail) call on the Lord AND be saved, as it says in Romans 10:13.

Most will protest : “what about my free will?” If one means that one should not be forced to repent, this, of course, is correct. Everyone is free to do what they desire. The issue is that – as the Bible says – no one desires to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, because they are dead in sin, love of self (Ephesians 2:1-10). So, salvation is of the Lord (Jonah 2:9); ALL of the Lord. See Charles Spurgeon’s “Salvation is of the Lord.”

In other words, a believer is born of God, and not of a cooperation between the will of man and the will of God.

John 1:12-14
As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, NOR OF THE WILL OF THE FLESH, nor of the will of man, but of God.

No, the “will of the flesh” does not mean the husband’s wedding furniture.

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15 thoughts on “The General and Effectual Call in Christian Salvation

  1. Yeshua taught us that, “The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.” John 3:8 NIV

  2. Who is in “control”? People do not have a full understanding of the nature of Elohim, His power, wisdom, knowledge, love, justice, mercy and that He is everywhere present. People who are fearful attempt to take control of things for self-protection. If someone is relationship with the Almighty heavenly Father through faith in His Son Yeshua then we learn to trust and obey Him and give up our felt need for “control” to live by faith in our Maker and Savior who gave Himself for us.

  3. According to Raf, “many are called, but few are chosen” (that’s what it says in the exclusively Christian book of Matthew).

    But in the Jewish Bible G-d only spoke of one chosen: “Israel My chosen” (Isaiah 45:4).

    Similarly, according to Raf, there are a few–specifically three–distinct individuals who together populate the collective “godhood” panoply of Christianity.

    But here again, in the Jewish Bible G-d spoke of only one personal god and He explicitly ruled out any kind of a partnership concept: “Hear O Israel, the L-rd, your G-d, the L-rd is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4) and “Is there any G-d besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none” (Is. 44:8).

    So, you can believe in Raf’s prescription for “salvation” if you want to, but do so with the certain knowledge that you’re contradicting the Bible, the word of G-d, head on.

    • Anon you argue your case attempting to show a contradiction of the concept that “few are chosen” in the New Covenant and only one was chosen in the Old Covenant, namely Israel. As you know, Jacob who was later given the name Israel when he wrestled with God written in the Torah by Moses in the book of Genesis can refer to the single man Israel or his descendants the people of Israel. We read in the Romans 9, though that not all of Israel is Israel. What does this mean? Not all of the physical descendants of Israel are born of God (born again) and therefore not all are children of God by faith in the Messiah Yeshua (read John 1:11-12).

      In Isaiah 42:1-9 we read, 1 “Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations. In this passage Isaiah tells that Messiah is Elohim’s chosen Servant who He will anoint with His Spirit, the Messiah is the Anointed One who was promised (see also Isaiah 61:1 and Luke 4:18).

      • David,

        You wrote “In this passage Isaiah tells that Messiah is Elohim’s chosen Servant who He will anoint with His Spirit, the Messiah is the Anointed One who was promised”.

        But really, the Hebrew Bible says that the Jewish people is G-d’s chosen servant.

        * Isaiah 41:8–”But thou, Israel, art My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen…”
        * 43:1–”But now thus saith the L-rd that created thee, O Jacob, and He that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art Mine.”
        * 44:1–”Yet now hear, O Jacob My servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:”
        * 44:21–”Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art My servant: I have formed thee; thou art My servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of Me.”
        * 45:4–”For Jacob My servant’s sake, and Israel Mine elect…”
        * 49:3–”Thou art My servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”

        Jesus isn’t mentioned at all in the Hebrew Bible, making what you wrote…inaccurate.

    • Anon you reason in the understanding of your own finite mind that,

      [Similarly, according to Raf, there are a few–specifically three–distinct individuals who together populate the collective “godhood” panoply of Christianity.

      But here again, in the Jewish Bible G-d spoke of only one personal god and He explicitly ruled out any kind of a partnership concept: “Hear O Israel, the L-rd, your G-d, the L-rd is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4) and “Is there any G-d besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none” (Is. 44:8).

      So, you can believe in Raf’s prescription for “salvation” if you want to, but do so with the certain knowledge that you’re contradicting the Bible, the word of G-d, head on.]

      In the beginning He created, Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

      Who is Elohim? He created the heavens and the earth. Elohim is a Hebrew plural noun for God with a masculine suffix. Elohim, He created the heavens and the earth. The Tanakh explains Elohim as the singular plural God. How can there be a singular plural God? Elohim is the one true triune God; the heavenly Father, the Son of God and Spirit of God.

      In verse 26 of chapter one Moses gives us this insight about Elohim (the one triune God);

      Then God said,

      “Let us make mankind in our image,

      in our likeness…”

      Genesis 1:26 NIV

      Yet you yourself contradict what Moses wrote in the Torah, what Isaiah wrote in chapter 48, and what king David wrote in Psalms 110:1-5.

      http://adventofmessiah.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/in-the-beginning%E2%80%A6/

      • David,
        Have you listened to any of Rabbi Akiva Tatz?

        According to the Talmud, he says, when God said “let US make man,” God called together all the qualities of peace, truth, justice, etc because all of these need to be taken into account (consulted??) in creation. Truth, peace, and justice argued with one another and couldn’t agree. So, what do we learn from “let us”, says the midrash through Tatz? We are taught that we need to work together. But the Greeks wouldn’t understand that, because when they see us, they’ll be thinking that God is a plurality; so the Jewish translated “let us” by “let me.” Silly Greeks. Let me now go and check the Septuagint. I don’t hope to find what I’m looking for, because, as a Muslim would say, it has since been corrupted.
        Hmmm.

        Listen to Tatz’s “the Greek in us” (Festivals III series)
        http://www.simpletoremember.com/authors/a/rabbi-akiva-tatz/

        He says some very bizarre things (he is merely being faithful to his tradition) about the translation of the Tanach into Greek. I was fascinated, though.

        It’s worth listening to more of Tatz. Can’t help liking him.

        • What’s even more bizarre is your claim, Raf, that “let us” refers to a father, a son and a ghost. At least Rabbi Tatz is working off of a source document he traces back to Sinai. What are you working off of?

          • You say a source document you can trace back to Sinai. When I look at all the anti-Torah things that are said in the (unexpurgated) Talmud, I can only think that you live in your own historical world.

            • You say the Talmud is not explanatory of, inclusive of, and consistent with, the information conveyed by G-d to the Jewish people in Sinai, which I guess serves to level the playing field with your claims about what the Jewish scriptures mean, since you make no claim that your own basis for disputing the Jewish understanding of those scriptures is rooted in anything connected with Sinai.

              Implicit in your argument is the essential statement that the Talmud is wrong for the same reasons that the Christian “new testament” is capable of being wrong–because it didn’t necessarily come from the same G-d Who presented the Hebrew scriptures to the Jews in Sinai.

              I agree with your logic that any information source that is not part of the national revelation that incorporated the written Jewish scripture is by default incompetent to interpret that scripture.

              So we can toss out the Christian bible. Now we’re left with the Talmud, and it’s capacity to credibly expound the written Hebrew scriptures. I’ve previously described to you my rationale for believing it was part and parcel of the divine download from G-d at Sinai, and will happily do so again if you ask me to repeat it here. But while I’ve heard your insistences that the Talmud is not a part of the chain of transmission from G-d to the Jews at Sinai, I haven’t heard any of your proof. Why do you say the Talmud can’t be a reflection of the information conveyed at Sinai? Let’s reason through this together by comparing our relative evidence.

      • David,

        You wrote that the Jewish Bible teaches “Elohim is the one true triune God; the heavenly Father, the Son of God and Spirit of God.”

        I hope that you realize it says no such thing.

        • King David quotes the LORD speaking to his Lord.

          The LORD says to my Lord:

          “Sit at My right hand

          Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

          Psalms 110:1 NASB

          Yehovah said to my Adoni:

          “Sit at My right hand,

          until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

          Our Father in heaven said to His Son our Messiah, “Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” The reason King David calls Him “my Lord” is because Messiah is the KING of Kings and the LORD of Lords. Yeshua Ha’Mashiach (Jesus Christ) is the Son of the living God and the promised Messiah. David calls Messiah my “Lord” (Adonai), even though Messiah would be a descendant of David who would be born of a virgin in David’s hometown of Bethlehem many years later while the Roman Empire ruled over Israel. Why would King David call his descendant the Messiah his Lord? Yeshua the Messiah, the Son of the living God existed before Abraham, and before Genesis 1:1. Since Messiah Himself came and lived among us He is “Emmanuel” (with us God), Yeshua is divine, He is God incarnate. Yeshua explained the essence of God in the New Covenant. Believers in Jesus as the Messiah who are called Christians now see and understand that Elohim (a plural noun for God) is a unified one.

          The LORD our God, the LORD is “echad” — a unified one.

          http://adventofmessiah.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/the-lord-our-god-the-lord-is-one-%E2%80%9D/

          • That’s a lot of extra-Biblical stuff David. Where does the Bible contain “Elohim is the one true triune God; the heavenly Father, the Son of God and Spirit of God”?

            I’m looking for a verse number, not a personal explanation.

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