Textual analysis of revelation: Listen to this mp3 – ” My Lord and my God!”

There are two main questions Jews and Muslims ask Christians:

1. How can God be one and three?

2. Why does someone else, never mind Jesus, or God!, need to die so that you can be forgiven of your sin? Surely, repentance should be enough. What’s with, ”the chasening for our well-being, for our true Shalom, fell upon him” (Isaiah 53)? Our iniquity falling upon an innocent, and on the Son of God? Christian, you are shirking your responsibility, says the Muslim, and thus deserve damnation.

What is important is that God’s revelation does not have to fit in with human wisdom, which  1 Corinthians makes clear:

For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written,
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”

Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

(1 Corinthians 1:18-25 )

First page of the Gospel of Mark, by Sargis Pi...

First page of the Gospel of Mark, by Sargis Pitsak, a Medieval Armenian scribe and miniaturist  (Wikipedia)

Jews and Muslims believe that the New Testament texts we have today, are at best, corrupt, at worst, a forgery.  The frustration for Christians is that the Jew and the Muslim do not apply the same standards of textual analysis (how we arrive at the veracity of the historical record) to their respective texts that they apply to the New Testament. The Jew maintains that he doesn’t need more evidence for his religion than the “fact” that he, together with every other (believing) Jew throughout history, witnessed  (vicariously?, mystically?, kabbalistically?) the reality of God at Sinai. And the Moslem?

Allah eser

Allah eser

 

Well, he just ignores your plea to apply the same rules of texts to his religion. ”Unless you show me an mp3 (Maximum Proof 3nity) of what you say Jesus and Paul said (I think of Bart Ehrman, the Muslim’s guru), I  remain, ehr, unconvinced, man”

Photo of Bart D. Ehrman taken following the Gr...

Bart D. Ehrman (Wikipedia)

John 20:24-29
24 Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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4 thoughts on “Textual analysis of revelation: Listen to this mp3 – ” My Lord and my God!”

  1. Forgive me for offending people:

    I (born Jewish) equally dismiss Jews’, Muslems’ and Christians’ beliefs. I do not believe any of their texts. I believe they were all written by men (I’m sure women weren’t taken seriously enough by anyone in those days!).

    Please forgive me if I have offended you.

    Karen Lavut

    • No, not offended at all. Your view is very natural. Have you heard of the novel “The shack?” It covers all the bases. It depicts God as a woman. It has gone further and catered for race as well; God is a black woman. And for the corporally challenged; God is a big black woman. And not to be sexist, her name is “Papa.”

  2. Hmm, Muslims and Jews. Not really sure I would take advice from either frankly. Both slaughter each other on a daily basis. Obviously THEIR religion is working. Islam, under the pedophile Mohammad believes in the total annihilation of anyone who is not Muslim and the creation of Israel proves how selfish and despotic Jews are. They murdered members of the British Army that had just, a few short years before, had liberated them from the concentration camps. They both hate Jesus because for the Muslim, it would mean no more cutting off of innocent peoples heads while half the Jews would have to stop worshipping money and the other half socio-communism! Over 126,000,000 million people have died in the last 110 years due to, in one way or the other, Jew ideologues stirring up hatred and murder. In fact one can very successfully argue that it was Jew Communists who provided the catalyst that drove Hitler to power in Germany. Therefore bringing the holocaust upon themselves. Jews have a habit of hiding behind anti-Semitism but have no problems pissing on Jesus. They cant take any historical criticism. I imagine if I conduct research into the Russian Pogroms, I will find a Jewish catalyst for that as well. Actually it is all Biblical. The Jews, supposedly the chosen people of God, turned their back on him so many times you cant keep count. When you turn your back on God, you pay a price. Rather then learn, the Jews continued to dig themselves into horror after horror. Remember when God wanted to punish the Jews, he usually used a corrupt and evil people to destroy them. Well, Nazi Germany is a more modern example. The Muslims were too backward in modern times to make any worldwide disaster at their hands a reality. However we are seeing that come to play RIGHT NOW. Again God using evil to punish and awaken. I am not anti-Semitic, I just like history. You don’t have to be a Christian to see the writing on the wall. God is knocking and he is calling the Jews back to him. They can only do this through Christ. Want proof. Just wait. I am not talking about the coming of Christ, I am talking about history once again coming FULL CIRCLE. If the Jews don’t wake up, they will suffer yet again. Guess who will come to save those not destroyed – you got it – Christians. Just like during WW2. When almost 80% of the forces arrayed against Hitler in the west were born as Christians.

  3. Some cogent points. One thing: the real history of Hitler (and the “heroes” Churchill and Eisenhower) is far different from the conventional stuff.

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