The foul smelling Christian spice and sweet Jewish incense of the Talmud: Together again

“When I learned that a Christian printer out of all people designed the format of the Talmud, it somehow reminded me of that one foul smelling spice in the incense that gets transformed into something good.”

(First comment on Rabbi Eliezar’s Introduction to Talmud).

Hear is the Christian and the Jew together again:

Isaiah 65:1-4

1 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name. 2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; 3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick.

4 thoughts on “The foul smelling Christian spice and sweet Jewish incense of the Talmud: Together again

    • We are reminded of the contrast between the aroma of life and the stench of death. The following is the Christian view. The Jewish view has roles reversed.

      2 Corinthians 2:14-17
      thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. 15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

      Christian Zionists, think on these things next time you dance the hora.

      • Yeshua taught us that the real stench comes “out of the heart”.

        Traditions and Commandments

        15 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” 3 He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ 5 But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,”6 he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word[b] of God. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:

        8 “‘This people honors me with their lips,
        but their heart is far from me;
        9 in vain do they worship me,
        teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

        What Defiles a Person

        10 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” 12 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” 13 He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides.[c] And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” 15 But Peter said to him, “Explain the parable to us.” 16 And he said, “Are you also still without understanding? 17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? 18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.” Matthew 15:1-20 ESV

        • Thank you David for this resonant passage. We never read in the Bible that out of the fallen human heart comes anything but one or more of the following: “evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.” There is no “beautiful me” deep down under the grime. Indeed there is nothing in natural man that would ever want to love Christ. “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit–fruit that will last” (John 15:16a).

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