The logic of Islamorphobia

Law of contradiction: A cannot be not-A

Morph (transitive verb): To change the form or character of

With regard to modern violence among Muslims, Muslims and ignorant-and-scared non-Muslims (the vast majority of Westerners) say that only a minority of Muslims are to blame, that true Islam is about peace.

In the video “The myth of the tiny minority” David Wood is in conversation with a regular Muslim caller, Manna. Bill Warner, a Muslim scholar, is an invited guest.

[My clarifications in square brackets]


I’m surprised that you are defending Isis as being Islamic when it is criminal misguided sect that both the majority of Sunnis and Shias believe are breaking multiple, multiple points of Qur’an and the Sunnah.” Mannu gives the “top three of them.” 1. “Killing the people who have surrendered without them (the people) fighting them (Isis). 2. Killing Sunni clerics who did not approve of their brand of Jihad. 3. They have stolen from the Muslim Ummah when they sacked all the banks in Mosul and other areas. These are all major, major areas of breaking Islamic Sunnah. And including what they had done in the past with the villagers they had kicked out in Syria because the fact that they were retaliating against people that they had even sided with the opposition with other groups that they were in conflict with [I’m not clear what he means, but it seems that he is saying that Isis kicked the villagers out in spit of the fact they were fighting on the side opposed to Assad].”

“If you put that together with what Muhammad did when he was victorious and came back to Makka [Mecca], and all his enemies he had, he said “remain in your houses, you’re safe, and the majority of people who remained in their houses there was no fighting. This group [Isis] has broken many many rules in Islam.”

[Ummah is the Muslim community. Sunnah is the way of life prescribed as normative for Muslims on the basis of the teachings and practices of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and interpretations of the Qur’an].

David Wood

“Mannu began by saying how can you say that Isis is Islamic when so many Muslims condemn them? What have we been saying this entire program? It’s not what this or that Muslim says; it is whether the Qur’an and the Hadiths agree [with them]. You’re not allowed to kill people who have surrendered? That is absolute nonsense. Well you can say that Muhammad didn’t kill the people who surrendered at Mecca, but when the Qurayzah [a Jewish tribe] surrendered to them, what did he do? He hauled them into the market place and chopped their heads off; big piles of heads. So, according to Mannu, Muhammad was not Islamic because he killed people who had surrendered….Yes, in Mecca he let many people off the hook until Surah 9:5 came down [the final statute on how to deal with unbelievers]. You cannot lay down what you said about Muhammad] as a blanket rule.”

[Surah 9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful. See The verse of the sword: Surah 9:5 and Jihad).

Bill Warner

Mannu has brought up a very interesting principle about Islam but he did this in an oblique way. I maintain that there are only two principles in Islam that are of real importance. The one is submission, the other is dualism. Both the Qur’an and Muhammad’s Sunnah are filled with dualistic statements. Yes it is true that in Mecca the prisoners weren’t killed, but at other times he did this. The important point is this: In almost very issue of `Islam there are two right answers: yes you can kill prisoners, and – isn’t there a Qur’anic verse that you should even take prisoners until there is a great slaughter in the land [give VERSE]. But the point is, and this is the trickiest thing about Islam, it always has two truths that always contradict each other. Now in our logic, in Western logic, if you have two statements that contradict each other, at least one of them must be wrong. But in Islamic logic, no: killing prisoners is Sunnah and not killing prisoners is Sunnah. This is what makes Islam so contradictory; its nature is contradiction.

David Wood

“It seems you can go to the Muslim sources and pull out anything.”

Might I add, “And pull the wool over stupid liberal eyes.”


The Islamic dilemma regarding the Qur’an and the Bible.

Bill Warner – “Why are we afraid? A fourteen-hundred-year old secret.”