Mitt who did you go to de President’s ball?
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Mitt who did you go to de President’s ball?
Key – mitt (with)
Father forgive them for they do not know what they do (Luke 23:24a).
In good translations of the Bible, a note is attached to the above words of Jesus suggesting that the saying is a textual variant because it does not appear in the early manuscripts of Luke. Alan Kirschner presents a strong argument to support this suggestion.
In the light of the rest of Jesus’s words and the New Testament as a whole, I suggest that these are either not the words of Jesus or that Jesus is referring not to all those involved in his crucifixion but only to a select few’ or more accurately an “elect” few (a scriptural concept/term – 41 verses in the Bible ).
I was in conversation with a pastor friend on Wednesday about the crucifixion, specifically about Colossians 2:13-14. Verse 13: “When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins…” When did Jesus forgive us all our sins? When we were made alive (and believed)? Most Christians will say when we first believed. This may come as a shock but nope; it was forgiven before you were born. That may be news to you; it is news to me- very good news. We continue with our passage, Colossians 2:14: “having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.” So, all our sins (past, present and future) have been taken away and nailed to the cross before we were born, and after those who crucified Christ were born.
For my pastor friend and most Christians (namely, who believe they came to Jesus on their own gas – in their natural state), Jesus nailed every human being’s sin to the cross; it’s one’s choice to decide whether one wants to accept this redemption. This means that Jesus shed his blood for every human being without exception, that is, was punished in their place and forgiven; and it’s up to “whosoever” to decide to follow Jesus. Where is the most famous “who(so)ever” in many English translations of the Bible (for example, the King James Version)? John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
My pastor friend says that “whosoever” means “whosoever decides to believe…” There is nothing in the text about choosing/deciding. The problem lies not in what the text means, but what most readers mean by “whosoever,” because 1. that is how it is used in English, and 2. the verse must “surely mean whoever decides,” because that is the preconception readers bring to the next – after all, the Holy Spirit is a gentleman, they say, and won’t force Himself upon you. (Have you ever heard in your church during prayer time from the preacher’s lips, “Allow the Holy Spirit to reveal your sins to you.” This is nonsensical. He blows where he wills – John 3:8).
We return to John 3:16: the literal Greek of John 3:16 says: “ For God did so love the world, that His Son — the only begotten — He gave, that every one who is believing (or, “the believing ones”) in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.” There’s nothing in the text about deciding anything, silly.
En passant, If most men and women who fall in love, do not force themselves on one another (happy that force) no one would get married, or, if you prefer, partnered.
A great combination of music, visuals and information.
In a recent post I registered surprise at the flight path of a Sao Paolo – Johannesburg flight. Guess what, I found a great answer to the conundrum on the United Nations flag – their map of the world.
Here’s the flag (“false?”: why doubt the UN, the only organisation we have left to bring world peace?).
The black line indicates route from Sao Paolo (left) to Johannesburg (right).
As the UN tells us, that globe map must be false. If you can’t trust the UN, life is not worth living. N’est-ce pas?
With regard to the gifts of the Spirit such as tongues, prophecy, and miracles, you should take very seriously your position on whether you are a cessationist or a continuist of these gifts, says Jason Mullet (minute 33 ff), a cessationist. He continues: “If I am wrong as a cessationist, then I would be saying that true gifts from the Spirit of God have ceased. I would be saying to those who genuinely have the gift of prophesying, of miracles and the gift of tongues, that this was not from God. I would be at best quenching the Spirit, at worst, blaspheming the Spirit.”
Now to Matt Slick (his real name). I love almost all of his apologetics. Slick says that after deep study of the scriptures, he is a continuationist. As we see above, Jason Mullet gives good reasons to assert that to be wrong about continuationism-cessationism is a serious matter: at worst blasphemy. Yet for Matt Slick, it’s “no big deal,” for him it isn’t a primary part of the Gospel.
I don ‘t think Slick would consider wrong beliefs about the gifts a heresy. He distinguishes between damnable and non-damnable heresy. His example of the former is the rejection of the incarnation ( the Word made flesh); his example of the latter is the rejection of hell.
Consider the five points of Calvinism. Slick like moi, is “Reformed” (“calvinist”): a five -point-Calvinist. Here are the five points in logical order:
The sovereignty of God shimmers through all the five points – as well as through the whole Bible: God ordains everything: Isaiah 46 – 8 “Remember this, and be assured; Recall it to mind, you transgressors. 9 “Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’.
Slick says that “it’s no big deal” to disbelieve in the above five points because, he says, it’s not an essential of the “Gospel.” He bases his view, firstly, on what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:
“Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,”
Secondly, the second person of the trinity (“indeed”) took on flesh: “I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins” (John 8:24).
And thirdly, justifcation (salvation) by faith alone (without works). “For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law” (Romans 3:28).Good works are the fruit of faith. This is what James means when he says “As you can see, a man is justified by his deeds and not by faith alone” (James 2:24). There is no contradiction between Paul and James, by implication no contradition between God and Himself, who inspired ( or better “expired” breathed out) the scriptures; every word of it. Slick’s favourite example of why he thinks the five points are “no big deal” is that when he married his wife, he never asked her whether she was “reformed.” He says he only found out (if I remember his words well) ten years later.
How do I see these two topics of the cessation-continuation of the gifts and Reformed theology (God’s sovereignty so well described in the five points): I agree with Matt that your belief in the gifts of tongues, prophecy and miracles is not essential (Mullett gives good reason to mull over this one again) but I disagree that the five points are non-essential. Now, if the five points are essential to the Gospel, to reject them or any of them would, it seems, be heresy. A damnable heresy? I’m not sure.
I love Matt Slick. No big deal?
Here is the flight route from Sao Paolo, Brazil to Johannesburg. Via Dakar, Senegal. The schedule board at the airport says “direct flight.” Nu (well) why don’t they do what it says, it’s much shorter? I’m flat with all these shennanigans.